Jesus of Mormonism but the Jesus of the Bible. . Youll never regret it. You have to be pretty bad to go to the Teresita's kingdom, and horrendous to go to outer darkness. D&C 133:73 says, These shall go away into outer darkness, where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth. Humans who never heard about Mormonism will not go there, as tenth President Joseph Fielding Smith said, That is a punishment that will not come to those who have never known the truth. Other sources used in composing this topic: http://en.fairmormon.org/Plan_of_salvation/Sons_of_Perdition/Can_women_be_%22Sons_of_Perdition%22, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_darkness#Usage_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement, http://en.fairmormon.org/Plan_of_salvation/Sons_of_Perdition/Eventual_fate, http://emp.byui.edu/satterfieldb/quotes/Sons%20of%20Perdition.htm. 16:811)meaning to be left with those who would partake of that permanent hell reserved only for those who, as Jacob stated, are filthy still.. From its beginnings, it taught that very few people would go to "outer darkness" the Mormon concept of hell. Becoming a son of Perdition is hard therefore going to outer darkness is hard. Now go take a nap and rest well! Just one rebellion. In each of the New Testament references to outer darkness, Christ declared the punishment that awaits faithless and wicked people. The kingdom that is not a kingdom of glory is called outer darkness. Utterly turn against god. For behold, he surely must die that salvation may come; yea, it behooveth him and becometh expedient that he dieth, to bring to pass the resurrection of the dead, that thereby men may be brought into the presence of the Lord. Also God says no one knows in scripture, so stop asking; but He also said in scripture that He upbraideth not those who have questions and if you ask it shall be opened unto you. (See D&C 76:2835, 4448.) 9:710, 19, 26). He was not ignorant, and therefore he became perdition, and they who followed him were sons of perdition, because he and they sinned knowingly. 185 Heber J. Jacob identified death and hell as temporal and spiritual death. Yea, and it bringeth to pass the condition of repentance, that whosoever repenteth the same is not hewn down and cast into the fire; but whosoever repenteth not is hewn down and cast into the fire; and there cometh upon them again a spiritual death, yea, a second death, for they are cut off again as to things pertaining to righteousness. Nephis commentary to his brothers concerning his fathers dream of the tree of life adds interesting insight into the possible meaning of the great gulf Jesus referred to: And I said unto them that it was an awful gulf, which separated the wicked from the tree of life, and also from the saints of God. By EntropyJustKillUsNow, March 29, 2017 in Social Hall. And I said unto them that it was a representation of that awful hell, which the angel said unto me was prepared for the wicked. That last part of the previous sentence is very important. The filthy would be more miserable to dwell with God than to dwell in hell, Morm. While this is true, please define Mormon Doctrine before saying I did not quote Mormon Doctrine. (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966), 758. The use of the term exterior darkness is in Jesus' parable of the wedding feast (also known as the parable of the marriage of the king's son). The second death is a second separation from God, not because of Adams transgression (the first death) but because of ones own failure to repent of personal sin. 13:42), the fire that never shall be quenched (Mark 9:45), where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched (Mark 9:48), and cast into the fire (Luke 3:9). This extreme punishment will not be given to any but the sons of perdition. These pains are similar to the state of suffering experienced by the ungodly who after mortality are assigned to hell. Those who followed Lucifer in his rebellion in the premortal life and those who in mortality sin against the Holy Ghost are sons of perdition. The Lord said no man knoweth So, theres probably a good reason that there is some debate and confusion on it. The Bible teaches that there is a devil and a hell, but the place of hell in the plan of salvation is taught best by the Book of Mormon. The word hell is mentioned twenty-three times in the New Testament: fifteen times in the Gospels, twice in the book of Acts, once each in James and 2 Peter, and four times in the book of Revelation. The wicked, or in this particular context, the sons of perdition who are filthy still after judgment and resurrection, are assigned to everlasting punishment (see 2 Ne. I can give you more than plenty of examples of that. Even the most evil of people, including Adolph Hitler and those of his ilk, appear to have a place reserved for them in nothing less than the telestial kingdom. While John could be referring to the sons of perdition in this passage, the specific sins he identified are characteristic of those who will suffer in hell but, after experiencing their part in the lake of fire, will be released from their torment and be resurrected to a telestial glory (see D&C 76:10312). And now behold, I say unto you then cometh a death, even a second death, which is a spiritual death; then is a time that whosoever dieth in his sins, as to a temporal death, shall also die a spiritual death; yea, he shall die as to things pertaining unto righteousness. This is in contrast to the VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE, who will receive a kingdom of glory after the Final Judgment, and enter into one of three degrees of glory after the resurrection: celestial, terrestrial, or telestial kingdoms. Severe punishment for eternity, reserved for Satan and his demons as well as the sons of perdition, those humans who once embraced Mormonism and left to fight against the faith, even though they knew Mormonism was true. They go too far, and the Spirit leaves themYou cant renew them to repentancyou cannot save them. (Joseph Smith Jr., King Follett Discourse). 15:2830). With the sons of perdition, however, even this blessing is denied. Those mortals who did join the LDS Church in this lifetime must fit the following criteria to be classified as a son of perdition, with a destiny to outer darkness. Which would be a sure-fire way to know that a spirit is headed to Outer Darkness? If this is the case, the worst fate any former Latter-day Saint can anticipate is the telestial kingdom. He is damned by mortification and is his own condemner and tormenter. It is impossible for those who never joined Mormonism to become sons of perdition. Big Love's episode "Outer Darkness" Summary: It is not our intention to discuss details of the portrayal of the temple ceremony here. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_perdition_(Mormonism). Although this is an obvious scare tactic, this accusation is not true according to important LDS leaders. According to the Doctrine and Covenants, this will be a place that even in outer darkness, where there is weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth (Doctrine and Covenants 101:91; also see 133:73). [2]. In the D&C, the definition of those who go to Outer Darkness is stated as: the end thereof, neither the place thereof, nor their torment, no man knows; Neither was it revealed, neither is, neither will be revealed unto man, except to them who are made partakers thereof;Nevertheless, I, the Lord, show it by vision unto many, but straightway shut it up again; Wherefore, the end, the width, the height, the depth, and the misery thereof, they understand not, neither any man except those who are ordained unto this condemnation (D&C 76:45-48). They are the celestial kingdom, the terrestrial kingdom, the telestial kingdom, and outer darkness. Marcus Dods (New York: Random House, 1950), 781. GOSH. It honors and glorifies Satan. (Selections of Doctrines of Salvation, p. 462. But Mormons do not believe that just because a Prophet said it, that it makes it true. Outer darkness is a place reserved for the Devil, his angels, and the sons of perdition. It is an eternal destination, a place where very few (if any) human beings will ever be sent. Even if a person had once been a Latter-day Saint, Kimball said it still was practically impossible for a human to become a son of perdition: The sin against the Holy Ghost requires such knowledge that it is manifestly impossible for the rank and file to commit such a sin (Miracle of Forgiveness, p. 123) (Doctrine and Covenants Student Manual Religion 324 and 325, p. 161). This isnt something like going out and breaking their rule of no drinking. Additional doctrinal truth concerning the great gulf can be found in the Doctrine and Covenants (see D&C 138:1837). So there you go, the souls who end up in Outer Darkness are clearly apostates, or not. 18:8), hell fire (Matt. [Discourse given on 20 January 1895.] He once said that a person. So lets turn to that bastion of all wisdom that Jeremy Runnells was blamed for not believing and turning to with questions: FAIRMormon: The church has no official position on this issue. Severe punishment for eternity, reserved for Satan and his demons as well as the sons of perdition, those humans who once embraced Mormonism and left to fight against the faith, even though they knew Mormonism was true. Second, it is the permanent location of Satan and his followers and the sons of perdition, who are not redeemed by the Atonement of Jesus Christ. 3:12), the tares are gathered and burned in the fire (Matt. That it is the most severe punishment that can be meted out to man is apparent. Those who have never received the light are not to become Sons of Perdition (Conference Reports, October 1958, p. 21). Ray L. Huntington and Terry B. The Book of Mormon contains six references to the second death: one reference by Jacob (Jacob 3:11), three by Alma (Alma 12:16, 32; 13:30), and two by Samuel the Lamanite (Hel. 34:3435; note Almas repetitive use of the word state in Alma 40:1112; see also D&C 101:9091; 133:7073). Generally, the outer darkness is thought to be hell; however, many Christians associate the outer darkness more generally as a place of separation from God or from the metaphorical "wedding banquet" that Jesus is expected to have upon his Second Coming. These men and women cannot be redeemed, and will be the only ones who will suffer the second death. Jesus declared that this exalted city would be brought down to hell (Matt. So, in conclusion, I would have a hard time believing that you or billions of souls as you put will qualify for perdition even while taking Mormon beliefs into account. Please read, the source above, What is Official LDS Doctrine. (-Joseph Smith in the King Follett Discourse), There is my definition I used in my previous post. In Mormonism, it depends. lucifer. 801-422-6975. Divine Love in the Fathers Plan (Dallin H. Oaks, April 2022). T F According to a church manual, those who never were Mormon could never be sent to Outer Darkness. Possibly but there is no citation there either. Polygamy with tons more men than women sounds ill-thought out. Tenth President Joseph Fielding Smitha general authority who spoke more about this issue than any other leaderstated. Clearly, when it comes to perdition and outer darkness, I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me, and anyone who speaks on the matter has a dizzying intellect. . One of the messages of the Book of Mormon is that people sometimes lose the desire to repent. In this state of torment Alma remembered his fathers teachings about Jesus Christ and his redemptive mission. Thank you! New Testament [ edit] Discourse delivered October 8, 1861, pp. The second possible sons of perdition are mortals. Into the telestial kingdom will go, according to that which is written here in this revelation, the vicious, the unclean, the ungodly (Conference Reports, April 1942, p. 27). Jesus also referred to outer darkness in two parables he gave during the last week of his life.