Hi Ami. My DEJA in home 6 in opposition to your NESUS in my house 12 to 10 degrees from my ascendant. Is it relevant? If you see Moon oppose or square Pluto, dont play with the person. You lose about 25% but still have about 75%. Or can my Sun hurt the person. I use the term female, but it would be the same for either sex. Would an eighth house overlay make these destructive or strengthen ? Since both Eros and Lilith are isolated energies buried deep in the unconcious, the erotic transformation which takes place upon their meeting is deep with raw and intuitive spiritual potency. OkI really cant comment on the sign, per se. Thank you for your words. Telling people that something will happen to them because of an aspect is what you in particular FEEL is going to happen, but that is not the truth. This really highlights this magnetic quality to this conjunction and creates a situation where each individual holds the . Eros/Pluto/Lilith together makes for one powerful combination. To me, this is always a fundamental place to start. Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? Sydney, you are amazing. There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. You truly made my day! I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects For more context, Nessus/BML dont aspect anything else except a grand trine with Mercury/MC and Jupiter. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. And The ex that abused me while I was pregnant had his Nessus conjunct my MC. I wonder if that would mean that he IS an abuser but couldnt abuse me ?? I was wondering how much weight can have the orbit in a synastry.. for example, I have with a guy a Venus trine Pluto, but 5.46 orbit.. does it counts? Please please do Nessus conjunct Lilith in synastry?? Making people fear being in relationships over tiny aspects that do not have an incredibly high chance of playing out is not healing to others. Dejanira trines my Ascendant. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? <3, Hi AmiAnn, do you have any thoughts on this? DO they have Moon trine Moon or Moon conjunct Moon. Your articles hit me hard again:-). How does that play out? Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. 1) What does it mean to have dejanira 13 in conjuction with my ascendant 12? I hope I can do this when I tell you about my own life. I would say no, but I am not the last word in anything. You are so welcome, Britt and thanks so much for telling me that you like it. What I wanted to know first was what past lives we had together. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). So the theory doesnt check out. You never want to leave your beloveds side until they put you in the grave. I, always, have people want to tell me that Nessus is not always abuse. They may cause each other significant pain and strife, but God help any outsider who dares to point it out. I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. Most karmic astrology synastry reports dont take Chiron into account nearly enough. In fact, it is the opposite. In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. Before I leave this subject, I will add my theory. I mean, a persons life is complicated. under what theme of the forum? How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 His 8th house Nessus is conjunct my 7th house Dejanira (2s), opposite my moon (-1s) and square my mercury (2a). It is really rocking my world right now <3. Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. The Lilith person brings sexual energy that is literally untamed. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. Your email address will not be published. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. Wow, Pluto conj the DSC may be looking for partners who have strong primal power and you may not have accessed your own. Lilith is looking for sacred sex. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. 3 degrees is wide but this is one of the hardest aspects in the whole chart, so please be vigilant, as I know you will be! I am for the stark, bare truth cuz that is what heals. its more like the astrology helps me to fill in the pictures. In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. You are very welcome, my Friend. There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. Lilith-Mars Aspects in Synastry (conjunction, sextile, trine, opposition, square) Lilith-Mars aspects are all about clash of desires. . I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. As a result, this aspect can feel like opening a can of worms that literally fly, not crawl, out of the unconscious. For teaching purposes, one must break things down, so it may seem like it is contrary but it is really not, imo, Sandy. If one person's Sun is conjunct Saturn and the other persons Eros is opposite Pluto, the contact will be quite different than if the Sun was conjunct Jupiter and Eros opposite Venus. I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. Eros is a spicy little asteroid who generates excitement in relationship astrology. Is there a positive aspect to this connection? 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. PROSERPINA conjunct EROS (055') IP: Logged. When Eros touches the Sun, the energy of both the Sun and Eros awaken between . It makes sense when you consider how deeply Lilith desires to eat/destroy her loves mythologically. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! What would that mean? One other thing that might be helpful with this asteroid pairing, and one that I think is quite meaningful. There is precious little practical info out there on asteroids. I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. Please, keep me posted though but, yes, please, be careful, Love! Great primal connection with fighting lol. Try to post the charts so see a visual! Lilith Conjunct Ascendant Synastry Sun Conjunct Lilith Synastry This connection will burn as hot as the sun! His Eros is on her Descendant and her Eros makes a square to his Sun and conjuncts his Vertex. It does indicate that both partners knew each other in a past life, but other romantic aspects are needed in the chart to create an energy strong enough for a marriage. His Nessus conjunct her midheaven. woman s Dejanira and Juno, ( 445 and 432 Scorp ) both conjunct mans Eros and Chiron, (510 Scorp, 530 Scorp ) and both OPPOSITE mans Nessus (6 Taurus) The same with nessus conjunct ASC? What about nessus exactly conjunct BML in synastry the man is nessus (9h), Wow Is there a super attraction that feels so strong that it will blow you off your feet? Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. I know my life, and what manifests in it. Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? I have Dejanira in Pisces in the 4H. From the outsider's perspective, Eros and the Ascendant person will seem as if they are living the romantic experience only witnessed in films. Opposition AC / Moon and trigone mars and saturne. Talk about deep dark sexual desiresTremendous sexual need to control. Considering the sexual aspect of it all, though, I'm betting the pay off was satisfying at least, haha. Maybe, the good aspects just out weight this one. Who does whom, so to speak? It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. lol. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . It is real to be neutral. Your posts are starting to scare me now Ami. Hmm it would be such a fortunate relationship with his Jupiter conjunct my ASC in synastry, and Venus-Jupiter exact composite conjunction right on his natal Sun! Which probably held it together for SO long. You have such a sweet spirit. You are welcome to your opinion but I stand on what I wrote. If you see Nessus in synastry, make sure you know which side of the fence he is on. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. Nessus conj the NN in the natal would be a person who would likely be abusive. It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. Do you think the way it plays out ties into whatever our attitudes toward Eros/Lilith themes (erotic transformation, primal urges, etc) were to begin with? Hi Amiann My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. Knowing more. They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. I dont know too much about asteroids and wonder if the intense attraction I am feeling will fizzle as quickly as it came about or if it lasting. ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? Thank you for this information! I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. Chiron conjunct sun. Not sure which one id prefer. I dont do the Draconic. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. The 12th house is all about past life astrology, so the planets can always be applied to past lives as well as the current life. The issue is telling people that are in healthy relationships or people that are around a couple in a healthy relationship, that those aspects will certainly play out no matter what. The Saturn person may kind of ride the back of the Mars person. With the Lilith conjunct sun, the Sun person is seduced by the other Lilith person. I'm so cappy Knowflake . Thank you again. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. The story of Eros and Psyche is one of deep and transformative love, but their union was not devoid of hardship. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. For your daughter, watch out she does not get sexually abused. You find them sexually attractive. We do not have enough information on every aspect, and never will because again, no interpretation is set in stone to be able to tell someone that something is most certainly going to happen. Currently you have JavaScript disabled. Hi! I write the truth not to placate people but because the truth is the only thing that heals. I know this came off a bit more forward, but only because I want to make it clear that one persons feelings are not fact. When the son grows up, he will likely be the abuser,too. Also, I discovered that my daughter has Dejanira conjunct her 2H Virgo Moon(3 deg. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. Is there anything I can do to help her? Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? What does this conjunction mean in a synastry? Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. The conjunction is, in my opinion, the only aspect that clearly dictates a marriage between these specific people. My Nessus square his Venus I guess I was just worried in general, just in case :P. how about deja conjuct saturn 1 degree. Welcome, Ariel and great questions. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart). My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. 1. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. BUT my dejanira is conjunct with his sun by one degree and my dejanira is also in the same degree as my AC What does that mean? I had waaaaay more rage than he did (granted, there were reasons for that) and said things so hurtful that I wince now when I think about them. his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. This vertex conjunction shows up again like in my previous relationship. More about Synastry (relationship Astrology) Intermediate and advanced students of Astrology might enjoy our article, SoulMate . If you know, let me know! Again, telling people to get out of or stay out of relationships with an aspect that you in particular think will cause them harm is not healing in any aspect of the word. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. But, I will take sides with Sydney on this issue. The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. It may be off a few minutes and change things. Yes, that is a good way to put it. Hey there! in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. In our synastry chart we have moon trine pluto and mars square pluto. It can be done but it is rare that someone reaches that level of spiritual mastery. 2021 - ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. Not good, my Friend. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. Hi Amiann, how do you think nessus square neptune would play out in synastry, lets say if its almost exact. Where did you get these theories from? If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. This transit is positive as well as painful, destructive and revelatory. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. Youll have to use your judgement here. Ami is an insightful astrology. Eros isnt making any connections to either Dejanira or Nessus though. I am sorry! These are too many questions for text. Just from reading this, I think it looks very good but I really need to see the wheel as it is easier. I am not surprised this happened to you. To gather more about the flavor of the relationship, look to the actual aspect (is it favorable or difficult?) What is your opinion on I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. the Moons will make for best friends. It doesnt always make for the easiest of relationships, because both people come into the marriage with the weights of the past life issues, but it definitely has staying power. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. I know somebody whose Moon conjuncts his Dejanira (30 minutes). YES. I suppose I should add that. Vertex conjunct the ascendant is a frequent synastry aspect in the charts of romantic partners. . Do you know what these aspects could mean? . I hear your concern. They made my day, Jeanie. IF the chart does not seem right, then I think the time of birth is off. Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? Amazingly accurate. Her NN on his 7th makes me think its a past life hold. You do not have to do their chart. Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). I've never had a more natural and effortless sexual connection to someone in my life, and it blinded me to a lot of things. That is why it is so powerful. I am looking to add 5 more aspects and would love your opinions! Eros thrills, scares and creates intense bonds. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. She is raw sexuality which will not be dark if it touches Venus imo and Welcome , what if I have my Lilith conjunct his juno and his venus. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. Is there any way this could play out in a positive manner or should I watch my back? It needs to be 3 degrees, tops, so no worries there! I dont mean to, but I think I find issues/hurts of my friends and partners and end up trying to mother them if thats what you meant. I bet that the son was still the abuser though, even if he was the victim, as a child. That is the nature of the DSC. I ve met a man who have his mars = my moon (1) in taurus and square my uranus (2) in aquarius. With any Chiron aspect to the other persons Juno, there was a wound created through marriage in a past life. I have this kinky fantasy specifically for him putting a really big needle into me as part of a medical procedure but this isnt my kink or fetish. I am prone to being attacked in this way. my sun in exact opposition to his pluto (I have this aspect in the natal chart) and my pluto in conjunction with his sun in an orb of 7 even far he can feel it? I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. . I will come back and answer when I have time to really look at the details. What does that mean? . Im trying really, really hard not to jump to conclusions, so any help or advice you could give would be very much appreciated. We can still find a lot of info with no time of birth. Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. Ive never seen the Descendant explained so clearly or succinctly before. It is not good to have a base level view on what will happen with one isolated aspect. on Dejanira and Nessus. Or rather nessus and dejanira support negative aspects since these are asteroids. I would have to see the rest of the chart to tell more though, my Friend. Thank you Ariel! If you see any intense conjunctions between the Sun, the Moon, Juno, the South Node, Saturn, Venus, Mars, Lilith, etc. His touch is all at once sexual, creative and spiritual. I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. Crow Symbolism: Spiritual Meaning Of The Crow, 6 Effective Studying Spells For Exams, Class, & Enhanced Focus, Winter Solstice & Yule: Rituals, Traditions, And Ways To Celebrate. There is NO way this will work out well, in my opinion. If that does not float your boat, feel free not to read. I do Astrology the way that I would want to learn it. We also have mars opposite pluto (Im pluto) in synastry. That is what I was saying. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. with Dejanira conjunct his natal Sun Wow. or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? If other aspects and planets in the chart point to marriage, then it was probably a romantic, attractive marriage where the couple did not see each other all day, did not share a bedroom, had a large household staff, lived apart, etc. Hardly. It is like sky diving. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. I am not asking you to do mine either. It always starts this way. I have to always be honest. Ceres person appreciates this, as they typically focus more on caregiving than on their own inner desires. We need to look at the whole chart to see the whole story. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. It is valued! Thank you =). I am very genuine towards others and fairness is must priority in all circumstances including my own critic.hate violence and abuse and stand up against it. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. As for MY natal chart I also have mars and Saturn conjunct in Scorpio. Sorry if its too much info xx, Ps, sorry! Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. It was a relationship based on dates and romance instead of the realities of life. Once awakened, no matter how untamed the experience becomes, we are given a rare opportunity to integrate, redeem and restore Eros and Lilith to a place of honor through shared, transcendental sexual activity. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. Another asteroid that is dark is Dejanira. I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. My main point is reflection. Great questions. Isis Conjunct the Vertex. Do you have any advice for me? What use is reams of esoteric info for real life applications. We talk about it often (3rd house moon overlay) its just a bit overwhelming sometimes like a sweet dream one moment, then an absolute nightmare. Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. What about Nessus conjunct Dejanira in synastry and there is no abuse whatsoever, what would that mean? Astrology 101 Astrophilosophy 1.8K subscribers Subscribe 119 3K views 1 year ago Eros and Venus in. What does that mean? If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Maybe also Mars/Uranus? Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. Yes, I was thinking about this. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. However, Moon/Pluto in conjunction does not have to turn bad. It is a true soul mate aspect, to me. Always leaving them in a fog of confusion, along with lies, victim playing and guilt trips. No worries. I dont believe in past lives, Lo. xx. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. I can relate to everything Ive read from you. Lilith is not dark, per se, Friend. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. In this case Nessuus is retro in conjunction with the North node. Also, I try to be very direct to counter the tendency in many Astrologer not to take a stand. I generally cannot stand them, and their tendency to be arogant and conceited towards anyone who doesnt think the way they do does come across as downright abusive to me. I reply to the comments out of order because I do it on the central comment form. I know there are astrologers who make every aspect positive but I dont think that is real and real is what heals and real is what gets people mad at you too lol. A later relationship was abusive (a psychopath) His Nessus square my Sun What about mars, Saturn and Jupiter in Virgo? Eros in a synastry chart. 10. I was sexually abused in my home by a family member. Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. 2) I just looked for the child asteroid and it is on 28 Capricorn, conjuct with my venus 1 Aquarius. Mars conj Saturn is not good. I love you and hope you write to me to say hello or to ask questions. First of all Lilith is for . I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. The Nessus person brings abuse to the ASC/DSC person. Sorry for the late reply. what would result from this? One person is kind of riding the other one in this. Yes, it would. Two celestial bodies are in conjunction when they are very close to each other, often in the same sign but never more than 8 degrees apart. A conjunction is the strongest, but most aspects indicate some type of marriage. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! What about my nessus conjunct his descendant? I feel like it helps me. My Dejanira is in 5 Sag, like his North Node. The Fortuna would, likely, bring good fortune to the vertex person, likely in the arena of money. Why dont you come and put the chart up on my Forum? You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. I know our feelings are mutually intense but certainly we experience our relationship from different perspectives. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear.