Doctrinal Statement - independentbaptist.church I will cut to the chase: my Pastor and his wife took a much needed vacation a few years ago. WebWOL's Directory of Independent Baptist Churches; Independent Baptist Churches. You are falling right in line with what they want someone who will robotically obey them. N/A Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you: 8 These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. I like door knocking is any of our church compelled to do so? Its the inspired word of God. Every time I got to a low point in my life, I knew that I could count on the church to be there for me. 20 When you swear by the altar, you are swearing by it and by everything on it. How will you escape the judgment of hell? I dont post this to to attack you, nor defend Dave, rather to simply point out that perhaps both are not setting the best of examples? If youve been taught that robbing God (not giving 10% of gross income) is the special, one specific sin that will cause God to lift all protection of your life and allow satan FULL LIBERTY to destroy you. I dont think its as bad as all this, but thats my 2 cents and maybe Im still on the inside.. 6:14-17), We believe that God has commanded that no intimate physical activity be engaged in outside of marriage between a man and a woman. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Do you realize this was written as humorous piece ? WebEvery active member wishing to speak shall rise and respectfully address the moderator. If you think that the hymnal in the pew is inspired by God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 23. Three words vacation bible school *shiver*. No denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. (Ephesians 2:8-10; John 1:12; I Peter 1:18-19). I had a free apartment, food stamps, government phone, and a $60.. utility check every month. 47. I had a wedding dress from when my boyfriend proposed on December 5, 2010. Ive known many people whom God has reached using the IFB. If your pastor begins his sermon by reading one verse than yells and pounds the pulpit for the next 30 minutes, my current pastor, at Balsam Street Christian Church, doesnt do any of the two as he doesnt use the pulpit to preach his sermons anyways. Jonathan I have a question for you..IF the wine is grape juice (as in the water Jesus turned to wine)HOW can you get drunk on it???? This is very good. [2] They are described by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) as "a loose network of independent churches concentrated in the U.S. connected by their belief in certain religious doctrines and a shared brand of deeply anti-LGBTQ and antisemitic teachings." You ALWAYS have your KJV Bible with you at church, and turn to numerous verses each sermon. We believe in salvation by grace I have an old high school friend here with me who started visiting churches. I can not forgive sins! All fellowship should be grounded in doctrine. I dont know your past, but I know mine and it aint righteous. This is just another sidetrack from the gospel of of Christ.We are to love one another and build up the church. Everyone has health issues. Pastors daughter did my hair and cleaned my dress with baby wipes. Sin is sin and the Holy Spirit works in us to pinpoint where we need to change and this happens while we are in the word. (Job 3:16; Psalm 51:5; 139:14-16; Isaiah 44:24; 49:1, 5; Jeremiah 1:5; 20:15-18; Luke 1:44), We believe that God has ordained and created all authority which consists of three basic institutions: (1) the home, (2) the church, and (3) the state. Illustration by Don Pfaffe appearing in the Central Conservative Baptist Quarterly If your church has a tract rack outside the sanctuary, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 22. Romans 5:8 God forgave me because Jesus Christ saved me. I wonder sometimes if the pastor didnt hit one of your sins and instead of getting you under conviction, you just got angry. Only a person who has embraced the Savior in fa Continue Reading 4 AbdulQadir Salati I talk to her about my faith she talks to me about her faith. You seem to enjoy copying and pasting scripture with no explanation or apparent relevance to the discussion so I thought Id give it a try also. Believing its a sin is one thing, believing its an unforgivable sin is another. If you went to a church camp where mixed bathing wasnt allowed and every evening there was a 3 hour sermon, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I only hope that you will see it before too long. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith BUT, there is good news! So the IFB pastor did counseling for 2 weeks and then, despite physical abuse, told you to get married! For you are so careful to clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside you are filthyfull of greed and self-indulgence! Jesus says that if you love Him, that you will keep His words.. If you believe women shouldnt wear pants, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 12. The Pastor leads, feeds, guides, and guards the church at the direction of Christ. What an extensive list. You better be right with God and have your name written in the lambs book of life. If you read any other bible besides the Kjv bible you not sining. Why wouldnt I stand up for something I believe in? Was so funny reading it, one thing that struck me is if an outsider were to read it theyd be incredulous, wondering how we stuck with it for so long. Gods will was for me to forgive. I do think that you can drink but you just cant be drink which is a legalistic problem within most Independent Fundamental Baptists. Tattoos are the marks of the Devil I really dont know if they are marks of the devil but I do agree that tattoos are sinful even if its against the Old Testament. 23. If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading , The KJV isnt the inspired word of God. 13 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. You consider it a personal failure if you are not able to find a verse within ten seconds, and secretly proud if you are able to find it right away. Your happy mega churches do too. WebBaptist beliefs are seen as belonging to three parties: General Baptists who uphold Arminian soteriology, Particular Baptists who uphold Calvinist soteriology, and Independent Baptists, who might embrace a strict version of either Arminianism or Calvinism, but are most notable for their fundamentalist positions on Biblical If you are careful to not show any emotion while singing for fear that you could be considered dancing, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 33. Baptists are people of the Bible and not fellings. Also God commands us to try the spirits to see if they are of God that implies God gave us the power of discernment 1 John 4: 1-5. We even have TWO. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ accomplished our redemption through His finished work on the cross as a representative, vicarious, substitutionary sacrifice; and that our justification is made sure by His literal, physical resurrection from the dead (Romans 3:24-25; I Peter 2:24; Ephesians 1:7; I Peter 1:3-5). If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. We believe that the strict, literal interpretation of the Bible makes us Baptists. Im sad to here that fellow Christians cant get along, and I will start praying for all Churchs to be revived. Its about Jesus. They are as tragic as they are true and yes the IFB movement went ver overboard on many standards and traditions. Some of these are very much right on the money. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. Like I said, Im more than happy to have a discussion. ALL sins are forgivable, even homosexuality although it is a detestable sin in Gods eyes. Since God looks at Jesus to forgive Ill look at Jesus also to forgive. 39. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. The parable of the prodigal son is talking about Israel the younger and Judah the elder. Its never spoken but up there to read. If you think anything other than a suit and tie for men is too casual for Sundays, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 11. I can use scripture to instruct me how to forgive others and God told me that it is profitable. I grew up in a IFB school and then university, so I can totally relate. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden. Does he always heal people no. The New IFB considers the modern nation of Israel to be a fraud and it also teaches that Christians rather than Jews are God's chosen people. We believe in the autonomy of the local church free of any external authority or control.
Sermon Outlines The Bible-Believing Fundamentalist Well I am a little confused. Im going back to my independent baptist church where there is no compromising. Its the inspired word of God. No one knew about the marriage except us. Great job adding a bit of levity! Generally its the Pastor, or Preaching Elder or Minister, that has to attend multiple services because he has to preach the sermon. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? It didnt raise red flags for me. 1. What is the Southern Baptist Convention and what do Southern Baptists believe? If you believe that clapping after special music is wrong because it gives praise to the performer rather than to God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 16. Only thing Ill add to the list is, You might be an IFB if you greet all visitors with huge smiles, handshakes, and extreme cheerfulness. I feel sorry for all the visitors we almost accosted now; no wonder some never came back! All I do is reply to comments. I, too, would never go back to many of the churches that I have been to, but if you search, you will find one that will cause you to grow in your faith and knowledge, and to change and to believe what God has said.
What do Fundamental Baptists believe If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I believe this passage is a description of the IFB church Im a member of. 9 Their worship of me is pointless, because their teachings are rules made by humans.. Interesting that Steve begins his response by taking the Lords name in vainmmmmmmm, very interesting, but hes found the truth, riiiiight. I praise the lord for that because if I sin I dont have to announce it to anyone but my Heavenly Father and he is faithful and just to forgive me. If you believe that your health issue is the result of sin in your life, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 49. (Acts 20:7, Hebrews 10:24-25). When I read what you have written, I sense that you are bitter, hurt, angry, and possibly disillusioned. People are people and free to choose their own way. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). Praise the lord for giving it to us. All churches are full of sinful people, including the pastor. I dont think it applies to all IFB churches, the ones I grew up in didnt do some of these, but the rest definitely apply. Teaching there is any unforgivable sin besides the sin of unbelief in Jesus Christ is not biblical. This group is for fellowship, sharing of resources, devotional thoughts, posting of sermons, news of interest, ministry ideas, missionary/church links, KJV verse photos, and general edification. The Bible talks about a CHEERFUL GIVER. If a person gets right with God, then they will usually give, not because they have to, rather because they want to give. They said no mixed bathing. As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated co If you think that tattoos are marks of the Devil, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 20. Baptism of believers by immersion in water symbolizes sincere faith in Christ's death, burial, and resurrection with the desire to walk in newness of life. Believe it or not I can find time to pray while at the same time not sending my loved ones to an abusive church. A church that has tract rack I dont know what they are for but my old church has one for storing hymn books (or hymnals), pew bibles, bible study books, etc. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. If your pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body but is himself an obese glutton, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 25. They are already spelled out in the Bible. Why dont you focus on the log in your own eye then you might be able to see the speck in my eye. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? These are not sacraments to earn salvation, but privileges granted by grace. [13] Robertson had previously attracted media attention after he stated that gay people should be shot and New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern should "go home and get in the kitchen". We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). Everything is about Him, He is a jealous God. I must forgive others the same way God forgave me. [1], New IFB churches have caused controversy on several occasions, because of their opposition to homosexuality. Those are my concerns about the 25 topics about the Independent Fundamental Baptist beliefs. My husband sinned, and wanted forgiveness. WebOur Mission. WebNo denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. If you (like Jason) come to this site to criticize sarcasm by hypocritically using sarcasm, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. G. M. Matheny. Its pure manipulation. I dare say it would be the one you enjoy making fun of. A IFB member knocked on my door one Saturday and invited us to church. She told her son Kenneth, who was 16, he had to start attending the academy and the church with her. If you think that the title Pastor is the synonym for the man of God this is not the case in the church I go to. Reading any other version outside of the King James Version is sin same concern as I mentioned topic 1 Frankly its not your place to tell me what I should and shouldnt do (typical IFB who thinks they know what everyone is supposed to be doing). Luke 8:17, Daniel 2:22, Luke 12:2. Im glad they didnt because Id probably be ashamed admitting Im a liar. 4 How can you think of saying to your friend, Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye, when you cant see past the log in your own eye? Hope you have a great day! [8], The New IFB website states that it is not a denomination and that New IFB pastors have differing views over minor theological issues. Hey there. I want to respond to your #30. We believe the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments to be the Bible, as it is in truth, the Word of God (I Thessalonians 2:13). anything that even remotely appears to be worldly means that you arent being separate, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 44. N/A We dont mind being scrutinized or even judged. 55. We believe that Satan is a created angelic being who rebelled and who tempted man to join him in rebellion against God (Isaiah 14:12-17; Ezekiel 28:11-19; Genesis 3:1-5). I dont even know what a Scofield Bible is but I believe God can use divorced people. WebIndependent Fundamental Churches of America, fellowship of conservative, independent Christian churches stressing biblical truth. 21 And when you swear by the Temple, you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. It seemed more like an attack on what the Bible says about life than on a denomination. God works in mysterious ways. 16. Stop this shamefulness, as you hurt the ministry of our Lord. You would probably also classify the God of the Old Testament as abusive. Yes but this is my concern about the IFB beliefs and I understand this was written to make it funny. Deacons help the pastor care for the flock so he can give priority to prayer and the ministry of the Word. I dont see how. We should not tell who are the good and bad Christians because we should treat everyone with love just like God loves every one of us. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Thats sweet. I found that 10 of those apply to me and Im not even IFB. Gods people are the Jews.. from Jew-dajudah.
Assemble Anywhere KJV Churches Baptists believe the Bible and strive to live according to its teaching. 50. The Trinity: Southern Baptists believe in only one God who reveals himself as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. We believe that speaking in tongues was never the common or necessary sign of the baptism or filling of the Holy Spirit and that ultimate deliverance of the body from sickness or death awaits the consummation of our salvation in the resurrection, though God frequently chooses to answer the prayer of believers for physical healing. If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. Youre judgment of me by one blog post and its comments is typical IFB tactic. Belief number 51 is absolutely wrong. I dont believe the IFB church I go to has ulterior motives, but I havent been to any other church to apply that to all IFB churches. And I know you included that on your list, but there is a difference between joking and bitterness and I can see it in the comments as well as the post. You can be saved and live however, but there will be consequences the saddest consequence of this behavior is your relationship with God will be Hindered greatly or little. If you confuse the KJV with the KJB, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 3. God divorced Israel but Not judah..Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of WHAT?? If you think that the other translations are too wordly that right there I dont like. )(yikes), because I never want to put that church building and hierarchy that rules it above Christ. We affirm without apology the doctrines frequently identified as the Fundamentals of the Faith, which include the deity, virgin birth, sinless life, substitutionary death, bodily resurrection, and imminent return of Jesus Christ. Anderson, Fannin and Shelley traded accusations of financial wrongdoing and running a cult. WebThe 1920 Baptist Fundamentals declared, The fundamental principle of the Baptists, in common with many other evangelicals, has always been the gospel, which is the essence Even if you cant tithe now you can still serve in some way and later when you are able to improve your financial situation they will get your tithe. If you think that anything other than what your church teaches about salvation is easy believism, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. The thing is, its so insidious, you dont really realize its happening until youre firmly entrenched. I love the Lord with all my heart-I attend church when I want and where I wantbut mostly I have bible studies with Christian friends in coffee shops, homes, and restaurants and (I usually have on a pair of blue jeans. Be careful that a fanatical or unbiblical few do not cause you to condemn us all as a group. Correction is my discernment. 32 Go ahead and finish what your ancestors started. Jesus forgave me and Im going to choose to forgive others regardless if they want it. 28. Youre perfect for them because they dont want people challenging their belief system. Get our Question of the Week delivered right to your inbox! 2. 44.
If your church sings Just As I Am at the end of every service We sing that song once in a while since its a good invitational song. We believe that the clear message of salvation is repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). I have no opinion on this Anderson and other New IFB pastors have praised the Orlando gay nightclub shooting. We should teach our children of who Jesus is and how we should live a holy or Christian life. 10. We believe in the reality of the person of Satan and that he and the fallen angels wage a spiritual warfare against the plan and purposes of God (John 13:2; Acts 5:3; Ephesians 6:11-12). We went to th IFB church that next day to say we went to get them off our back. *gasp* Just kidding, just kiddingwe at least look for Baptist on the sign so were good . What sorrow awaits you! Take a look here: https://www.openbible.info/topics/tithe_in_the_new_testament. This is an assumption.. Apart from Him we can do nothing. I get the vibe that you were alienate by IFB movement at some point, as were a lot of us, but dont try to use that as an excuse to go on a crusade against fellow believers. 15. Also, #55 there has only been and will ever only be one perfect person. That being said, I just want to warn the author about injecting too much of his own agenda into these posts. They try there best to live for Christ and to give God the glory for everything. As of 2019, the New IFB listed 32 affiliated congregations on its website, most in the U.S. with some in Australia, Canada, the Philippines and South Africa. I love this!! 32. The Bible terms pastor, elder, and bishop refer to different responsibilities for the same office. I think its easy to look at the pastor as an authority figure, someone who holds some position above you, but most of them just want that connection with you, they care, they love you, they just want whats best for you. I aint got any place to judge anyone because in all honesty i have messed up in life a lot. JUDAH. Quite the contrary, I was searching for something else when I clicked on this link, so I didnt then and dont now come looking to argue. It is the final authority on all matters of faith, practice, and polity. If your pastor is a true scholar of the Bible and is on fire with eagerness to teach it, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). You feel forced to go door to door preaching No general opinion on this since door to door preaching within the IFB is very similar to that of the Jehovahs Witnesses though we should share the gospel to others, especially to those who dont have Christ in their lives. 11. Remember when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees? Others are very much unfair criticism. I am pretty conservative, but find some of this stuff outright ridiculous! The abuse would continue and they would be dead and their child would be in foster care. I have attended an IB Church my entire life (34 years). Praise God because us getting married and having faith we both grew. I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. Then you have churches with no standards . If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. We believe the Blessed Hope of our Lord's return is literal, personal, visible, imminent, premillennial, and pretribulational. I wish you had broken up your last paragraph into multiple paragraph everything runs together. First Works had previously been the site of protests by activists opposed to its anti-LGBTQ teachings, but police reported there was no evidence linking the protesters to the bombing. We believe his power is supernatural, yet limited; and that he cannot act without the permission of God (Job 1:6-12; I John 4:4). If you think that you should cut your vacation short so that you can make it back in time for Sunday morning Sunday School, but think its OK that your pastor miss a Sunday or two because hes on vacation, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 5.
Baptist The IFB is the organization hurting His cause. Im convinced that its much much deeper than rejecting real truth .. many many come back in southern Baptist churches, but not ifb churches.. what say u. Dont throw your pearls to pigs! Our pastor dont take any credit he passes praise the church gives to him towards God. We believe that a Fundamentalist is defined by their adherence to orthodox theology, orthodox methodology, and will only fellowship with those who do the same. The members were so sweet to us. Much to their horror, they could not find a church that had a Wednesday night service anywhere in the area. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.